fireguy976
19-08-2008, 08:39 AM
Hi,
great idea for a site, much of the suspension parts and tuning can appear to be very much a black art.
Ive got 3 projects on the go, and hope you can either direct me to a good publication out there on suspensions stuff, or maybe this thread will become the basis for other threads to talk about specific types.
The projects are a '65 Dodge A100 P/U, a 71 riumph TR6, and a Honda vtx 1800 motorcycle.
The Dodge A100 has the simplest of all possible suspensions to start with, leafs all around. Would like to go with an air suspension so I can drop it to the ground. Just picked it up last week, so have not had any time to look into bags or anything associated with air yet.
The TR6, Im redoing the suspension for different reasons. The stock system in the front uses a standard coil spring and separate shock with typical upper shock tower mount. Both the upper and lower A arms are a variety of cast or pressed pieces, and the spindle setup uses a trunion to help control movement. It also has a 4 x 114.5?? bolt pattern which is an abosulte pain in the A$$ when looking for decent wheels, unless you are going to run Panasports or similar like everyone else is doing. There are other choices, but you get into the plus 30 and 40 mm offsets, which means ussing 1.5 inch spacers to keep the wheels from rubbing the suspension components, and this of course adds unsprung weight which is what we dont want. SO>>>>>
Thinking of going to a Mustang type II system, which should lighten things up a bit, much simpler and I can fab up a bunch of the parts myself. Also make upgrading brakes easier as well as picking out new wheels.
Finally the bike, has a double coil over mounted at the back corners. Because I wish to go with a wide setup in the rear, thinking about a single mono shock up in the back, or others have also done air, but dont know what the ride qualities of air would be on a bike. Ive heared, you dont get the control of rebound and such , some say its more for show than go.
Anyhow, input would be greatly appreciated, and as I sort things out, Ill post info and pics. Here are a couple pics of the TR6 origional suspension, and some mustang type suspension components. Notice the different mounting systems for the later pics. Some use a welded in place mount with all adjustment coming from losening the jam nuts and then unscrewing the ends, or a mounting system where it is bolted in place with the adjustment available through sloted holes. Im sure the later is considerably easier to adjust, but is it secure enough??
Later on maybe we can talk about anti sway bars.
Cheers,
KJ
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great idea for a site, much of the suspension parts and tuning can appear to be very much a black art.
Ive got 3 projects on the go, and hope you can either direct me to a good publication out there on suspensions stuff, or maybe this thread will become the basis for other threads to talk about specific types.
The projects are a '65 Dodge A100 P/U, a 71 riumph TR6, and a Honda vtx 1800 motorcycle.
The Dodge A100 has the simplest of all possible suspensions to start with, leafs all around. Would like to go with an air suspension so I can drop it to the ground. Just picked it up last week, so have not had any time to look into bags or anything associated with air yet.
The TR6, Im redoing the suspension for different reasons. The stock system in the front uses a standard coil spring and separate shock with typical upper shock tower mount. Both the upper and lower A arms are a variety of cast or pressed pieces, and the spindle setup uses a trunion to help control movement. It also has a 4 x 114.5?? bolt pattern which is an abosulte pain in the A$$ when looking for decent wheels, unless you are going to run Panasports or similar like everyone else is doing. There are other choices, but you get into the plus 30 and 40 mm offsets, which means ussing 1.5 inch spacers to keep the wheels from rubbing the suspension components, and this of course adds unsprung weight which is what we dont want. SO>>>>>
Thinking of going to a Mustang type II system, which should lighten things up a bit, much simpler and I can fab up a bunch of the parts myself. Also make upgrading brakes easier as well as picking out new wheels.
Finally the bike, has a double coil over mounted at the back corners. Because I wish to go with a wide setup in the rear, thinking about a single mono shock up in the back, or others have also done air, but dont know what the ride qualities of air would be on a bike. Ive heared, you dont get the control of rebound and such , some say its more for show than go.
Anyhow, input would be greatly appreciated, and as I sort things out, Ill post info and pics. Here are a couple pics of the TR6 origional suspension, and some mustang type suspension components. Notice the different mounting systems for the later pics. Some use a welded in place mount with all adjustment coming from losening the jam nuts and then unscrewing the ends, or a mounting system where it is bolted in place with the adjustment available through sloted holes. Im sure the later is considerably easier to adjust, but is it secure enough??
Later on maybe we can talk about anti sway bars.
Cheers,
KJ
http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u229/fireguy976/?action=view¤t=image0002.jpg
http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u229/fireguy976/?action=view¤t=0309sr_road_05_z.jpg
http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u229/fireguy976/?action=view¤t=6620mustang20II203.jpg
http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u229/fireguy976/?action=view¤t=STOCKUCALCATUBULAR.jpg